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- File:The badge of the Military Order of the Serpent.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jax MN (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Ref to Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions#Member_badge, this is a replaceable fair use file where a free version of the file can be duplicated --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 12:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Minorax, was this intended? In the line above you referenced a discussion about another badge. "Wolf's Head" vs. the "Military Order of the Serpent". In both cases I have clarified the irreplicable claim, have commented on the relevant Talk pages, and in the case of the Serpent, I reduced the image further, Jax MN (talk) 18:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, * Pppery * it has begun... 18:27, 14 December 2024 (UTC)- Delete per WP:FREER. — Ирука13 12:15, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Black Myth Wukong, princess.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Cold Season (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The non-free screenshot currently used in the Black Myth: Wukong article under the Synopsis section primarily serves a decorative purpose. As the screenshot itself is not the subject of any sourced commentary, the required context outlined in WP:NFCC#8 is lacking. Using this non-free image is not essential to convey the point that the video game Black Myth: Wukong is inspired by the classical novel Journey to the West. Wcam (talk) 21:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Your claim that it is decorative is false. It is used to make a comparison between the video game and the classical novel (the original work serving as the inspiration for the video game).
- It shows how the video game uses elements from the classical novel, such as in its game characters (Rakshasi is a character that drives a plotline) and its gameplay (the Plantain Fan is an item used in combat). This purpose is further highlighted by the fact that this non-free image is used in conjunction with a (public domain) image from the original work in a {{Multiple image}} template, which actually does contain commentary sourced to IGN, South China Morning Post, et al. Both the character and the item depicted are discussed in the Wiki article and the caption. --Cold Season (talk) 01:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- The article's main text lacks any sourced commentary specifically discussing the design of the Rakshasi character. The only mention of Rakshasi is within the Plots section, where numerous characters are briefly mentioned, failing to provide the specific context required by WP:NFCC#8. Furthermore, the use of this non-free image is not essential to convey the game's inspiration from the classical novel Journey to the West. The game's overall design and character concepts, including Rakshasi, are clearly influenced by the novel, and this can be conveyed through textual descriptions and references to the source material (WP:FREER#b). Wcam (talk) 04:32, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- That requirement is well-fulfilled. There is sourced commentary about the character, the similar role she fulfills in both stories, and the similar item (a plantain fan) she possess in both stories. This is all highlighted in the text and both images. Therefore, the non-free image (from the video game) in conjunction with the free image (from the novel) is invaluable to highlight how the video game has been inspired by the novel, whether characters, stories, or gameplay. --Cold Season (talk) 15:02, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- The article's main text lacks any sourced commentary specifically discussing the design of the Rakshasi character. The only mention of Rakshasi is within the Plots section, where numerous characters are briefly mentioned, failing to provide the specific context required by WP:NFCC#8. Furthermore, the use of this non-free image is not essential to convey the game's inspiration from the classical novel Journey to the West. The game's overall design and character concepts, including Rakshasi, are clearly influenced by the novel, and this can be conveyed through textual descriptions and references to the source material (WP:FREER#b). Wcam (talk) 04:32, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Kang Jin Star.webp (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by YuelinLee1959 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This non-free screenshot currently used in the Black Myth: Wukong article under the Plots subsection primarily serves a decorative purpose. As the screenshot itself is not the subject of any sourced commentary, the required context outlined in WP:NFCC#8 is lacking. While the Development section briefly mentions the game's inspiration from real-life buildings and statues, using this specific non-free screenshot is not essential to convey this information. The screenshot's current placement in the Plots section is inappropriate and does not directly contribute to the understanding of the game's narrative. Therefore, the non-free screenshot should be removed. Wcam (talk) 21:54, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Ang Panday 1986 animated series.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GeniusTaker (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
It is unclear why this image is needed in the article, even if it were free licensed (WP:NFCC# 8 & 3a). — Ирука13 10:54, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Yeah, about that. Because I already posted that picture from partially-found or lost clip found on YouTube as video frame into the article of Filipino animation as free use or public domain. I believe none of them restoring that series Ang Panday and likely not having licenses for that. GeniusTaker (talk) 10:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – Filipino animation § 1986–1995: EDSA Clearly demonstrates why this is important and has no non-free substitute: Ang Panday (1986) was the first Filipino animated TV series. That represents a landmark in any animation industry, and this is showing the title card. I see nothing wrong with its importance here as an illustrative aid, and no non-free substitute is likely to exist under US law until 2086. This is a very minimal usage with what I would argue is high value in the article and zero substitutability. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 18:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as failing WP:NFCC#8. It's removal would not detract from a reader's understanding of the topic of Philippine animation. It's importance can be expressed with the text in the article. -- Whpq (talk) 05:14, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per Whpq. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:54, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The claimed purpose of use in article is merely that this is used
For an example of Filipino animation in television
. But there is presently no sourced commentary on that logo; the title slide is merely decorative in nature. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 07:10, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Golden Lion size.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ramòn DeLa Porta (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
previous discussion
Per WP:NFCC#1/3a / WP:FREER (3D) - file:Golden Lion (prize).jpg. — Ирука13 12:23, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – file:Golden Lion (prize).jpg, cited by Iruka13 as an acceptable substitute, is extraordinarily washed-out and barely even shows that there's text whatsoever on the plaque. This is frankly an abysmal representation of the item in question. The previous 2020 discussion got this correct; the WP:FREER photo is too poor of a source to be considered a near enough equivalent: the color is way off, but more importantly, with better-than-20/20 eyesight, I can just barely make out by zooming in that the plaque even contains text – one of the two integral components of the statue, the other being the lion itself. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 18:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Keep per above nom. This0k (talk) 05:58, 12 December 2024 (UTC)WP:SOCKSTRIKE — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 07:02, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FREER. The image may not be as nice as the one currently in the infobox, but is is sufficient for the purpose of visual identification. -- Whpq (talk) 05:17, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I'm usually on the pro-free content side here, but I find TheTechnician27's articulation much more convincing. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:14, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
I have poorly argued this nomination, I ask that the nomination be relisted. — Ирука13 04:22, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FREER. While the image might be aesthetically better than the one in the history section, that image is suitable for identifying this. The guideline is quite explicit about this case:
a photograph of a copyrighted 3D work of art will also carry the copyright of the photographer in addition to the copyright of the artist that created the work. We would use a photograph where the photographer has licensed their photograph under a free license, retaining the copyright of the derivative work, instead of a photograph that has non-free licenses for both the photograph and work of art
. There is no wiggle room here based on aesthetic qualifications when the freer image is sufficient for identification of the award in question, which is the claimed purpose of use. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 07:05, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Batman superman.PNG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Batman tas (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This file does not appear to comply with the non-free content criteria, specifically:
- Criterion 9, because the file is used in non-article pages, including disambiguation pages, and non-article namespaces either other than or in addition to articles and article namespaces. — Ирука13 23:11, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Keep: It is being used in a WP:Set index article of these two characters as a visual means and provides the contextual significance of the subjects. It is not an actual DAB page, as explained at WP:SETNOTDAB, and that ought to fall in line with the exceptions of the criteria. I see no reason to warrant a deletion. It was also just re-uploaded with a higher-quality version before the nom erroneously removed it from the SIA Batman and Superman where it is most relevant, which the nom did not really provide any proper explanation for in their odd edit summary. This nomination is over a misunderstanding of a technicality and lacks sufficient rationale or merit. Trailblazer101 (talk) 23:19, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Well, technically, you're correct. That image being in this article doesn't violate any rules that I know of.
- ..I brought the community's attention to a situation that I think violates NFCC - "my job here is done". — Ирука13 01:40, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- If it needs to be explicitly stated that SIAs are an exception because they are not DABs (which it seems is necessary), then that is something that ought to be handled at the Criterion page, not by trying to make an example out of one lone file. Since this file does not violate any rules, there is no reason it ought to be deleted or discussed in the first place, rendering this whole discussion moot. Trailblazer101 (talk) 18:05, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Trailblazer101's rationale, the reader's understanding of the subjects is increased from the file's existence, and also, set index considerations hold true. BarntToust 17:57, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep It's the main topic and lead image of the article of course it has significant importance. This0k (talk) 06:06, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Criterion 8, because the file does not significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would not be detrimental to that understanding.— Ирука13 16:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)- Seriously? It provides a significant understanding by showcasing who both of these characters are directly in the SIA without having our readers go to another article to figure that out. There is nothing wrong with how this image is being used in this SIA. Trailblazer101 (talk) 16:23, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I'm not convinced this satisfies WP:NFCC#8 - seeing an image of the superheroes does not help the reader determine which of the works listed on the set index they are looking for, and Batman and Superman have their own articles. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:16, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- As this is an SIA, I consider it to still be a work in progress to cover the topic of these two characters as a duo, similarly to fellow comics SIA Hawkeye (comics), as opposed to simply being a list of relevant links with not much meaningful content. I would still argue that my above rationale stands for that regard, I have just been precluded from making such changes due to other commitments. Trailblazer101 (talk) 05:19, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:The Musician (Erling Blöndal Bengtsson) by Ólöf Pálsdóttir.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Michael Bednarek (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
{{FoP-USonly}} can only be used for architecture, but this is a sculpture. Stefan2 (talk) 21:28, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've replaced
{{FoP-USonly}}
with NFURs. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 00:01, 28 November 2024 (UTC)- @Michael Bednarek: Converting the file's licensing to non-free and adding non-free use rationale might take care of the FOP issue cited above by Stefan2, but it creates different issues that now need to be sorted out. A non-free image of this sculpture would certainly be justifiable in a stand-alone article about the work itself if such an article existed; however, since there's no such article, the next best option is perhaps in the article about the artist who created it as an example of their creative work. So, the file's non-free use in Ólöf Pálsdóttir is probably OK as an example of her work. The other uses in Erling Blöndal Bengtsson and Harpa (concert hall) are not so clear and just adding a non-free use rationale for them doesn't make their uses valid. Erling Blöndal Bengtsson died in 2013, which means a non-free image of him can possibly be used; however, there are probably much better ones to chose from that this particular image, and there might even be a free or public domain image of him that could be used instead. The other use in the article about the Harp concert hall doesn't, at least in my opinion, meet WP:FREER, WP:NFC#CS or even item 6 of WP:NFC#UUI since a link from that article to the article about Pálsdóttir seem fine for Wikipedia's purposes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:33, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Either keep in only Erling Blöndal Bengtsson or delete. Possibly, a photo of Bengtsson himself would be nice, but I think a sculptor of him is also nice. I don't see enough critical commentary to justify usages in other articles; the whole image itself (of the sculpture) not contextually significant to the sculptor or the hall that holds the sculpture there.George Ho (talk) 00:12, 28 November 2024 (UTC); struck, 00:48, 28 November 2024 (UTC)- I think the use in the article about Ólöf Pálsdóttir could be justified as an example of her work, assuming there are no freely licensed of public domain images of her work that can't be found to use instead; however, I disagree that this would be OK to use in Erling Blöndal Bengtsson, and it would be much preferable to use a non-free photo of him instead if a freely licensed or public domain image can't be found. The sculpture is nice perhaps, but nice is an insufficient justification for the file's non-free use. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Uncertain about Ólöf Pálsdóttir: she's already a sculptor when you identify her. Is being a "sculptor" insufficient to readers? Sure, a photo of her work can help readers understand her skills as a sculptor, but the main issue is whether the biographical article about her really needs the photo and whether readers can already understand her without an image of her work like this. Well, I've seen other cases where a photo of a work is placed in an article about an artist or a sculptor or a painter or... Well, this doesn't mean this is no exception, right? Meanwhile, maybe the Bengtsson article doesn't need the sculptor image after all? I can't find ways to counter your argument, so... well, I struck out my suggestion then. George Ho (talk) 00:48, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think the use in the article about Ólöf Pálsdóttir could be justified as an example of her work, assuming there are no freely licensed of public domain images of her work that can't be found to use instead; however, I disagree that this would be OK to use in Erling Blöndal Bengtsson, and it would be much preferable to use a non-free photo of him instead if a freely licensed or public domain image can't be found. The sculpture is nice perhaps, but nice is an insufficient justification for the file's non-free use. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Icelandic copyright law treats buildings and outdoor sculptures the same. Both can have a picture if said picture is not used for commercial purposes. If the template does not fit because of US laws then it just needs an Iceland specific template (come to think of it the French have the same basic copyright rule, maybe join them in one template?). The template is not a valid deletion reason. Snævar (talk) 10:15, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- With all due respect, the image was deleted in Commons as lacking FOP in Iceland, i.e. FOP not given to buildings and artworks, unfortunately. George Ho (talk) 10:32, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Wikimedia Commons really just deletes FOP Icelandic and French photos because they are not allowed to keep no-commercial photos, due to foundation:Resolution:Licensing_policy. They even admit to it on their own pages at c:COM:FOP Iceland. Snævar (talk) 18:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- If there's an Icelandic Wikipedia and this file is uploaded locally there, then perhaps an Icelandic specific template could be made to work. However, since the servers for English Wikipedia are located in the US, English Wikipedia goes by US copyright law. This means c:COM:FOP US matters here and there's no freedom of panorama for 3D works publicly displayed in the US. So, the sculpture imagery needs to be treated as non-free for any photo of it to be hosted locally on English Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:24, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, it is a non-free photo. I guess what I am saying is that "Template:Non-free 3D art" is sufficent for the image. It's use is allowed per US laws in article 107 (fair use doctrine). Then due to the Berne Convention and foundation:Resolution:Licensing_policy the local laws matter too - which in this case is Iceland. In Iceland, the use is allowed as an non-free photo based on article 16 of the Icelandic copyright act - it says that the image can only be used for non-commercial purposes (c:COM:FOP Iceland) and article 14, which is similar but more restrictive than article 107 in the US, allows use for criticism purposes. Snævar (talk) 18:35, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- All non-free content needs to meet Wikipedia' non-free content use policy. Non-free content needs to have an acceptable non-free copyright license and a separate specific non-free use rationale for each use as explained in WP:NFC#Implementation. Changing the file's license to
{{Non-free 3D art}}
is fine for the copyright license part, but adding a non-free copyright license in and of itself doesn't make a file automatically policy compliant. The non-free use rationale part of equation also needs to be valid as explained in WP:NFCCE, and "valid" in this content means the use meets all ten of the criteria listed here. I think that could be possible for the file's use in Ólöf Pálsdóttir, but not really possible for the uses in Erling Blöndal Bengtsson and Harpa (concert hall). So, none of the discussion related to the non-free use of the file has really anything to do with Iceland's FOP. What matters is whether the consensus established here is that there's at least one way to currently use the file in accordance with Wikipedia's non-free content use policy. If there is, the file can be kept; if there isn't the file will end up deleted per WP:NFCC#7. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:10, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- All non-free content needs to meet Wikipedia' non-free content use policy. Non-free content needs to have an acceptable non-free copyright license and a separate specific non-free use rationale for each use as explained in WP:NFC#Implementation. Changing the file's license to
- Sure, it is a non-free photo. I guess what I am saying is that "Template:Non-free 3D art" is sufficent for the image. It's use is allowed per US laws in article 107 (fair use doctrine). Then due to the Berne Convention and foundation:Resolution:Licensing_policy the local laws matter too - which in this case is Iceland. In Iceland, the use is allowed as an non-free photo based on article 16 of the Icelandic copyright act - it says that the image can only be used for non-commercial purposes (c:COM:FOP Iceland) and article 14, which is similar but more restrictive than article 107 in the US, allows use for criticism purposes. Snævar (talk) 18:35, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- With all due respect, the image was deleted in Commons as lacking FOP in Iceland, i.e. FOP not given to buildings and artworks, unfortunately. George Ho (talk) 10:32, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- WP:NFCC#10c requires that the FUR must be relevant to the use, but none of the FURs seem relevant to the use of the picture.
- The use in Ólöf Pálsdóttir looks fine. Usually we allow a small number of non-free pictures of works by an artist or sculptor if no free pictures exist.
- I don't think that the picture is needed in Harpa (concert hall).
- Erling Blöndal Bengtsson is dead. If no free pictures exist, we often allow a non-free picture. However, are we certain that there is no free picture? He lived for a long time in Denmark, and there is
{{PD-Denmark50}}
which provides a short copyright term for many photos. --Stefan2 (talk) 10:57, 28 November 2024 (UTC)- A Danish photo may still be copyrightable outside Denmark, even when fifty years passed
after author's lifetime, if the photo was still copyrighted in 1996. George Ho (talk) 12:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC); edited, 17:34, 28 November 2024 (UTC)- In Denmark, the copyright to a photo expires 50 years after it was taken (not 50 years after the death of the photographer), or 25 years after it was taken if taken before 1970. Photos taken before 1970 and first published in Denmark are ineligible for URAA restoration, but may have a subsisting copyright. Presumably, most pre-1970 Danish photos are in the public domain in the United States. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:15, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Shoot! I didn't read further! —George Ho (talk) 17:34, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- In Denmark, the copyright to a photo expires 50 years after it was taken (not 50 years after the death of the photographer), or 25 years after it was taken if taken before 1970. Photos taken before 1970 and first published in Denmark are ineligible for URAA restoration, but may have a subsisting copyright. Presumably, most pre-1970 Danish photos are in the public domain in the United States. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:15, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- A Danish photo may still be copyrightable outside Denmark, even when fifty years passed
- Delete from Erling Blöndal Bengtsson and Harpa (concert hall) as WP:NFC#UUI#6. Remove from Ólöf Pálsdóttir as WP:NFCC#8: in the article this photo only confirms the fact of the existence of the sculpture. — Ирука13 06:18, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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December 19
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 16:11, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Map Hudson County New Jersey municipalities.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wikid77 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused in article space, copy of this image. Should be deleted or moved to Commons. — Ирука13 01:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
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The result of the discussion was: delete--Ymblanter (talk) 12:12, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:New Orleans Krewe of Orpheus stylized symbol.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wikid77 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Judging by the description, WP:ORIGINAL. Encyclopedic usefulness is questionable. Perhaps c:COM:DW and the file is not free. — Ирука13 01:39, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, questionable licensing with no usage in the main space. Salavat (talk) 01:49, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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- File:Ewen Fields.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Macca86 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Probable copyvio - source appears to be <https://paimages.co.uk/image-details/2.567220> from 2002, years before it was uploaded here in 2010 Geoff | Who, me? 21:59, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 01:50, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Recent nominations
[edit]December 20
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: speedy keep. copyright question settled. (non-admin closure) PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Wallace Fard Muhammad.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Karppinen (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
We have several free use photos of him, so the historical person rationale is failed for NFCC. However, this photo is in the time period range where it might be PD depending on how/when it was published. Does anyone know the date of this photo's creation or publication? PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Published in NoI's official newspaper in August 1934, without copyright notice. it's PD-US-no notice. Feoffer (talk) 08:21, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Feoffer Thank you! I will now withdraw this. Would be nice if an admin could undelete the first revision so we can put it on commons. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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- File:BigMacButton1975.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Crath (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Photograph of a copyrighted image. Does not meet WP:NFCC#8 for use as non-free. — Ирука13 05:14, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- The image is posted to the section of the Big Mac article talking about the "Two all-beef patties" jingle. The button in the image is an example of how McDonald's used the lyrics: it was the button worn by staff when they served customers during the jingle's first use. As such, I believe it does qualify for inclusion -- moreover, it is fair use of the copyrighted image. Christopher Rath (talk) 01:34, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Wyszyński.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 172 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
An unexplained change of license has been made (@Zscout370:). In fact, neither the publication date nor even the production date of the photograph are known. The author is also unknown. It is impossible to confirm {{PD-Poland}}. As non-free it probably can't be used either. — Ирука13 09:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Maumoon Abdul Gayoom 1960s.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by MAL MALDIVE (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Publication date unknown. It is not possible to count 50 years. +WP:URAA — Ирука13 10:30, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Vietnam ADAF banner.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hwi.padam (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The file name and FUR say that it is a banner. The license says that it is a logo. And that it serves as a primary means of identification. The article says that it is a wordmark. What is it and why is it needed? — Ирука13 12:54, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
December 21
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. file has been relicensed as non-free (non-admin closure) — Ирука13 23:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:75 Rupees Independence Commemoration Note.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Infoadder95 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Currency in Pakistan is copyrighted. The image should be relicensed as non-free. Or removed. — Ирука13 00:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- The image labeled copyrighted is currently being used in the article Pakistani 75 Rupees Commemoration Notes, so instead of removal I request it to be relicensed as non-free instead of removal,I also request the image File:SBP 75th Anniversary Commemoration Note.png may be copyrighted too, so I request the relabeling instead of removal of the Image in context as it is also being used in the article Pakistani 75 Rupees Commemoration Notes. Infoadder95 (talk) 11:58, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- The file currently has been relabeled by me, so this should be the end of the discussion and the removal of highlighting tag. Infoadder95 (talk) 14:52, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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- File:Genesis83-98boxset.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by BoffoHijinx (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Since the visual design of box set in the article is not described in terms of reliable sources, the image in the infobox can only be used as a means of identification (WP:NFCC#8 / WP:NFCI). A two-dimensional image is sufficient for this purpose (WP:NFCC#3b). In addition, this three-dimensional object has two licenses: the object's license and the photographer's license. In this case, they are both non-free. It is possible to make a freer image by photographing the 3D object yourself; or turn it into a two-dimensional one. — Ирука13 02:35, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT⚡ 06:03, 21 December 2024 (UTC) File:Luke A McKay on the Central Coast.jpg is now obsolete and should be deleted as it was replaced by File:Luke A McKay looking out at Brisbane River.jpg
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- File:The Criminal 1981.webm (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GeniusTaker (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The film will enter the public domain in the Philippines in 2032. — Ирука13 06:21, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:NationalBloc23.PNG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Micov (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
unused, apparently incorrect variant of c:File:National Bolshevik Party flag.svg — Ирука13 11:31, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 01:54, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:WHAM (Who Hard as Me) - Lil Baby.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RapsTooFocussed (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Instagram post is not sufficient to establish artwork as official album cover. The large size of this upload is a violation of the non-free rationale of minimal usage. Binksternet (talk) 17:30, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
December 22
[edit]- File:Amet-khan Sultan Grave, 2011.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PlanespotterA320 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File does not significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would not be detrimental to that understanding (WP:NFCC#8). Also, I did not find any information that the photo was published under a free license (WP:FREER 3D). — Ирука13 01:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Maloi singer graduation picture.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Royiswariii (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Per the "Contextual Significance" clause at WP:NFCCP. The file doesn't serve a compelling purpose for its inclusion other than to illustrate the mere fact that the subject graduated from school. Another free cropped image has already been provided, deeming this file unnecessary; nothing of encyclopedic value would be lost if this non-free file is removed. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 10:32, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Golden Badge.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Raph Williams65 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Some dreamstime.com images are clearly licenced as CC-zero (eg. this one), but the badge image here is not, instead saying "© Alona Stepaniuk" and presumably falling under one of Dreamstime's more complex licenses which have restrictions on reuse. Belbury (talk) 19:53, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, questionable licensing with no usage in the main space. Salavat (talk) 01:57, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
December 23
[edit]- File:Narmer palette 83d40m hathor atop columns below belt of king.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 83d40m (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The image is obviously a cut-out and slightly enlarged part of this image. According to c:COM:Own work, such an action does not give authorship. The columns "Source", "Author" and "Date", as well as the license, must be re-issued in accordance with the original photo. Which must be deleted, but here is not Commons. — Ирука13 00:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the headsup, User:Iruka13. I made the closeup photograph that is diplayed to the left and followed what was understood in its description when creating the WP file. I do not know why you presume an image from which it is cropped. It seems that the disposition of a specific file is why you are calling for the action you have noted regarding the file I uploaded that was accepted during review — years ago.
- Loss of the closeup image seems detrimental to WP where it is applied to the discussion of the minute detail at the article on the Narmer_Palette, please do not delete it. I also plan to use it for an edit of another article.
- The subject is an Ancient Egyptian artifact of unknown artistic origin, a cosmetic tray. No claim regarding creation of the artifact is asserted, only of creation of the closeup photograph. Noting the detail about Hathor on top of columns depicted below the belt of a king figure depictred on the tray — has a distinct purpose that calls for the closeup.
- Please clarify exactly how you would prefer the description to read and I will edit the file following your instructions.
- Also, my understanding is, that an editor is free to exercise the option offered to stipulate local retention — please advise whether that has been changed — as I continue to want to exercise that option. I do not understand your last sentence, please clarify that as well. _ _ _ _ 83d40m (talk) 02:15, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I decided this because I saw several similar images in your contribution - unlike this one, the source of those images is only other images, although the file description says that you are their author. And also because of the lack of metadata. And, of course, when comparing the images as such.
- Please provide a link to the discussion in which the image was accepted.
- This is not necessary, but I would like to see the full image with metadata. — Ирука13 05:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Uofs new08.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
No need to use at Education in Saskatchewan, a link to University of Saskatchewan will be enough. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 10:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Remove from Education in Saskatchewan as it is not the logo of that article (as the article is not for an organisation) and so the "purpose of use" on the non-free template is incorrect and invalid. Keep on University of Saskatchewan, where it is a valid fair use. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Forgot to include this in the nom but this file is also not needed at University of Saskatchewan as File:University of Saskatchewan logo.svg exists. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 14:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- In that case, I support Delete. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Forgot to include this in the nom but this file is also not needed at University of Saskatchewan as File:University of Saskatchewan logo.svg exists. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 14:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:British Airways i360 Logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by TheGreatAugustan (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Former logo, which doesn't significantly enhance the article, especially at the newer logo File:Brighton i360 Logo.png is more generic and so more useful. Also fails WP:NFCC#3- minimal number of non free items in the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Katy Perry - 1432.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Playking616 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The album cover is a for an alternative version of the album, released months after the original. It is not substantially different and has not been subject to critical commentary therefore it fails WP:NFCC, the omission of the cover does not harm the topic. The cover is also of too high quality for a non-free image. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 21:52, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Fails WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8. —IB [ Poke ] 23:27, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Question if facing the vortex at a different angle and having KP emerge from it along with showing a new butterfly doesn't qualify as "substantially different" to the standard edition's cover, then what would? I was sure that counted for something. Image resolution could potentially be reduced. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 03:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
December 24
[edit]- File:Cf3.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Giantdevilfish (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
WP:NFCC#5: not encyclopedic. The character of the article is turned almost with his back, and is in a pose in which it is difficult to see him. In addition, the part of the image he occupies is barely a third of the possible. + the image in the infobox includes this version of the character. — Ирука13 06:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Norfolk Railway heraldry.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Neith-Nabu (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Photo of a three-dimensional object. The object is in the public domain. Photo license unknown. — Ирука13 09:09, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Island Cove POGO hub.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hariboneagle927 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
PAGCOR website does not follow the c:Template:PD-PhilippinesGov rule. in addition to "© 2024 All Rights Reserved", their website footer bears a link to DMCA ("DMCA Protected and Monitored"), signifying the government agency has the right to issue copyright take down notices against unauthorized users (and English Wikipedia is one such unauthorized user). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 13:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Apt. (Screensho).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lililolol (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Fails WP:NFCC#8 . Sricsi (talk) 20:07, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Sricsi Uh, I don’t really get how this breaks WP:NFCC#8? The video screenshot I uploaded shows Bruno waving the flag, and that’s something a bunch of critics mentioned in their coverage. It seemed like an important moment, so I figured adding it would help make the article better. Lililolol (talk) 20:18, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- “Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic”
- I don’t believe we need a non-free image for people to imagine someone waving a flag. Sricsi (talk) 20:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
December 25
[edit]- File:Charli XCX - Unlock It.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GiankM. M (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
I don't believe this is the actual cover art for the single. Released on 11 December 2017, the Internet Archive shows the Pop 2 artwork being used on the single on the 12th when the mixtape wasn't released until the 15th. Launchballer 00:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:43, 11 December 2024 (UTC)- Strong Keep About whether "Unlock It" doesn't have a cover is something I disagree for the following reasons:
- It's true that in Spotify, all the singles Pop 2 show the album's cover and don't have an artwork of its own. However, Spotify it's not the only source that can determine if a single has its own cover or not.
- The cover I uploaded comes from a post of Charli's official Tumblr account. Kim Petras also uploaded the same image to her Facebook.
- It was designed by the same person who did the cover for "Out of My Head". From what it seems, both covers are from a series of pictures created to promote the mixtape. They follow the same style so its safe to assume that Charli hired a person to do them and its not fanmade content.
- Regardless of whether a song doesn't have a cover on streaming platforms, other articles have used promotional images for singles.
- GiankM. M (talk) 04:50, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Keep About whether "Unlock It" doesn't have a cover is something I disagree for the following reasons:
Strong Keep As I am not sure since it's been done on multiple song articles, can a picture that is promoted by the artist be used ?Because if so strong keep as Kim Petras had posted it to her Facebook years ago. If this however is not eligible for fair use on song articles then delete. Edit: Actually strong keep. It serves it's purpose, showing who the song is featuring with the main singer listed as well, not just any photo nor is it fanmade. This0k (talk) 18:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)WP:SOCKSTRIKE. ✗plicit 03:50, 18 December 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, * Pppery * it has begun... 21:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Rosé and Evan Mock.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lililolol (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The image doesn't significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission wouldn't be detrimental to that understanding (WP:NFCC#8). Sricsi (talk) 22:18, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Indian Bank logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by VNC200 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
A low-quality fake (WP:HOAX) that is not capable of replacing the original image for encyclopedic purposes (WP:NFCC# 4, 5, 8). — Ирука13 19:58, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Change your own file to proper SVG file, and upload it in the old file. It would be better. VNC200 (talk) 03:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- You could have informed me in my own chatbox such issues. I would have tried to make such changes accordingly. Is it possible to get some time to change and modify and upload it in a new form ? Please let me know. VNC200 (talk) 03:38, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Comment: I inform the community of a conflict of interest regarding this image between me and the administrator Ymblanter. — Ирука13 13:09, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Iruka13: I don't think that's a conflict of interest as the term is used on Wikipedia. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:22, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:42, 11 December 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Let's try to bring some clarity to this mess. The dispute here seems to be whether to use File:Indian_Bank_logo.svg or File:Indian_Bank_logo_2023.png as the logo for Indian Bank. The SVG has an unclear source (it claims to have been extracted from a PDF, but what specific PDF is not specified). The PNG seems to be identical to the logo that appears at the top of the website. On the other hand, it's generally agreed that vector graphics are preferable to raster graphics, all else equal. If this gets no more comments in another week, it will probably be closed as no consensus, but I'm giving people one last chance to sort this out.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, * Pppery * it has begun... 22:46, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
December 26
[edit]- File:The Beautifiul Ones sample.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by TonyTheTiger (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File's contextual significance to the whole song questionable. No longer used in the parent album article. George Ho (talk) 02:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Reasons samples.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by TonyTheTiger (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File's contextual significance to the whole song questionable. No longer used in the parent album article. George Ho (talk) 02:39, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:American sailboat.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Extermino (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unable to determine who painted this and when this was painted. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 05:09, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Dexter Return To Sender Episode 5 Season 1.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Stadt64 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
My first FfD so apologizes in advanced I believe this fails NFC8 as it adds little context. The in article caption states that it depicts Dexter finding a body he previously disposed off while the image is simply Dexter standing around. It is unclear what he's doing Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 07:14, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- File:Doctor Who The Edge of Destruction.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Thelb4 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This file does not appear to comply with the non-free content criteria, because the file does not significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would not be detrimental to that understanding (WP:NFCC#8 / WP:NFC#CS). — Ирука13 08:24, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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